
Life After Liberation - Holocaust Survivors in Post-War Germany
Life After Liberation - Holocaust Survivors in Post-War Germany
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Stories of Shoah survivors freed near Landsberg am Lech and later housed in Displaced Persons camps.
A look at the stories of Shoah survivors liberated near Landsberg am Lech, in southern Germany, and later housed in the Displaced Persons (DP) camp in the town. The program also highlights the global political focus on the DP camps, Germany's attempt at self-exoneration following the war, and a local couple’s work in creating a proper memorial.
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Life After Liberation - Holocaust Survivors in Post-War Germany
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A look at the stories of Shoah survivors liberated near Landsberg am Lech, in southern Germany, and later housed in the Displaced Persons (DP) camp in the town. The program also highlights the global political focus on the DP camps, Germany's attempt at self-exoneration following the war, and a local couple’s work in creating a proper memorial.
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♪♪ -The history of the Bavarian town of Landsberg am Lech is inextricably linked with that of Nazism.
It was here, during his incarceration in the town's prison in 1924, that Hitler wrote his inflammatory anti-Semitic manifesto "Mein Kampf".
During the Nazi era, Landsberg was known as Hitlerstadt, or Hitler Town, a place where many concentration camps were built, right up until the end of the war.
♪♪ As the U.S. Army advanced in April, 1945, it liberated the last survivors of the concentration camps.
♪♪ In the months that followed, some 50,000 Jewish survivors gathered in southern Germany.
They had lost everything.
They were once again housed in camps, this time run by the U.S. Army and the United Nations.
But in post-war Landsberg, the Holocaust survivors weren't welcome.
To this day, the town can't agree on an appropriate memorial for the victims of the Shoah.
♪♪ -Could you tell me where is "play" here?
I don't see.
-This is the "play".
-This one?
-Yeah.
-Okay.
[ Man singing in German on tape ] We were all singers.
My whole family and also my uncles and my cousins.
We used to get together and we used to sing and the people used to stand outside... ...and applaud.
Singing saved my life.
-Would you like a cappuccino, too?
-[ Man translating ] -Yes, sure.
-Helga and Manfred Deiler are longtime time residents of Landsberg.
They were both born and raised here.
-[ Helga speaking German ] -Rolf Mutzenich visits European Holocaust memorial in Landsberg.
Very nice.
Ah, that's how they framing it, that he's visiting [Indistinct name] I welcome the opportunity to show him the European Holocaust Memorial on the site of the former concentration subcamp, Kaufering VII.
The president of the foundation, Manfred Deselaers, et cetera, et cetera, informed Rolf Mutzenich about the historical background and the foundation's efforts to make the site permanently accessible to the public.
Well, let's see.
Do you think anything will come of it?
-We'll have to wait and see.
-Good.
[ Both conversing in German ] Manfred Deiler used to work for the Siemens Company health insurance fund.
He's also been busy doing work of a very different kind over the last four decades.
As president of the European Holocaust Memorial Foundation, he and a group of like-minded residents purchased a section of the former concentration camp complex.
The foundation runs a small memorial here.
But it has bigger ambitions.
It wants to build a documentation center here, and it's been waiting for years for the town to amend the land use plan for the site.
It's been left largely untouched since 1945.
-[ Manfred speaking German ] In the last four months of the war, 2,000 people were murdered here in camp seven alone.
They died of exhaustion or typhoid fever, starvation, or were beaten to death.
And if you're undernourished, if you only weigh 40 or 50 kilos and you have to stand for two hours at the morning roll call... ...well, if the weather's like it is today, it might not seem quite so bad.
The sun shining, there's still some warmth.
But I can still imagine how, bit by bit, your will to live ebbs away, as you struggle to withstand the cold and the hunger.
-Jakob Bresler is 94 years old.
He was born in Poland to a Jewish family.
When he was 11, he and his family were deported by the Nazis.
His father, mother, four sisters, and brother were murdered.
I was in three ghettos -- Auschwitz, Dachau, and ten different camps around Dachau in the subcamps.
-In 1944, he was deported from Auschwitz to Germany.
-Whatever you have heard and read, it's ten times more.
They were beasts.
They were -- They weren't human.
-Jakob Bresler ended up in Landsberg in the Kaufering concentration camp.
Jewish slave laborers were forced to build huge bunkers here, intended for use by the German armaments industry.
♪♪ -Sturmbannfuhrer called Hans.
He had a dog, a shepherd, a German shepherd.
And his pleasure was, when we went to an appell -- You know what an appell is?
In the morning, we used to get out and had to stand on the appell.
They used to count us.
He used to make it his business to take out one person, mostly an elderly person.
And he stood in the middle of the field, and he had to roll himself over to him.
Not walk.
Roll himself over.
And if he didn't, he sent the dog at him.
And a lot of people died that way.
I've seen it myself because I was there.
♪♪ ♪♪ -At the Kaufering camp, the Nazis continued their policy of murder until the very end.
As the Americans approached, the prisoners were sent on death marches.
-I was a skeleton, of course.
I could not walk.
So I picked up a branch from a tree somewhere, and I was humping, you know.
And we went down to... We practically crawled on our stomachs to the tanks of the American army.
And kissed the -- the tracks of the...
It's -- it's a scene out of Dante, you know?
One cannot imagine.
One cannot imagine.
You know, the American soldiers looked at us and they thought, "Who are those people?
They're from a different planet."
And we were.
-I will, um... -Move the chair.
-Move it a little bit closer.
-Closer.
Okay.
-It's okay for you?
-Yeah, fine.
-George Leitmann is 97 years old.
He was one of the U.S. soldiers who liberated the area around Landsberg in 1945.
At the age of 18, he volunteered to fight in the war against Nazi Germany.
-I remember entering towns that had been completely destroyed, and there were many, many bodies, obviously in the ruins.
It has a very certain smell, you know?
It's hard to describe, you know?
It's -- it's, uh... And it's apparently the kind of smell that comes from just death.
♪♪ -When the war in Europe finally ended on May the 8th, 1945, the full horror of Germany's extermination program was revealed.
The Kaufering camp in Landsberg was no exception.
-In Kaufering, it was doubly bad because the, uh -- the attempt to burn the bodies, the evidence, didn't work.
I mean, you can throw -- you can throw gasoline on dead bodies and light them, but if the dead bodies are only bone and skin and it's not going to burn very well.
♪♪ ♪♪ These piles of just almost not recognizable people, the human beings, and the ones who were still smoldering, that's another thing that, once in a while, wakes me up at night.
That's -- it's, uh...
But that's not surprising.
It comes with the territory, I think, is what they say.
Yeah.
-George Leitmann is a U.S. veteran and a Holocaust survivor.
He fled the Nazis in 1940 with his mother and both grandmothers, leaving Austria for the United States.
His father, Joseph Leitmann, wasn't able to get a visa and went underground.
He was murdered by the Nazis.
George never saw him again.
-To me, it immediately became something connected with my father.
You know, when we encountered, for example, fleeing displaced persons, for example, there was always the hope that I would see him, even though I -- you know, I knew that this was as unlikely as you can imagine.
But nonetheless, you know, the human mind always says, you know, "It's possible."
And it sometimes is, of course.
So that sort of distinguished me from the people I served with in the Army, for example, that there was always a personal element.
♪♪ The colonel, the commanding officer, Colonel Johnson -- still remember his name -- was so outraged when he entered that camp.
There were the still burning bodies, you know, the stench.
That's another thing that I can smell to this day, by the way.
That he ordered to go to all the surrounding villages, the smaller places between Landsberg and Kaufering, and pick up people and bring them to the camp and make them march through the camp.
And I remember two women talking to each other.
And, again, the words stick in my mind.
One of them said to the other, "Der fuhrer," she said, "was right.
Americans are barbarians to make us look at this."
♪♪ ♪♪ -George Leitmann is in near daily contact with the Deilers in Landsberg.
He's helped by his friend Santiago Chen.
-Do you hear us?
-That's good.
-Yeah, this is great.
Hi!
-So if you are interested, we have some news from Germany, especially from Landsberg.
You are interested in?
-Yeah, of course.
-Okay.
So, the first thing is, the next week, the conception for documentation center for the museum is ready now.
Dr. Edith Raim has finished it.
The next good news is, at the end of the month, we have a meeting with the Bavarian Minister of Culture to speak about how we want to going on in the future.
-That's good news, yeah.
By comparison, I'll have really good news.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, uh, it's... [ Speaking foreign language ] [ Laughter ] -Yeah.
It's not -- This project, it's really not easy because, not everybody here likes it, and that's part of the problem.
-Well, of course.
Yeah, but that's why you have to involve more people, because then it becomes part of their interest.
[ Coughs ] Excuse me.
If you can make the population on your side, then the politicians listen to that, you see?
So that's why it's important to do that.
Because people want to be in on something which is important and new, and it makes it more important themselves.
You know, you want to feel you are part of the decision-making.
-Yes, of course, mm-hmm.
This is a good advice.
Yeah.
-Yeah.
-We will see.
-And we will tell you.
-Anyway, thank you for the good news.
-Yeah.
-So have a nice day.
We have a nice night.
-Bye.
-Bye.
-Bye-bye!
-In Landsberg, the foundation is presenting its concept for a new memorial site.
Local media have been invited.
Historian Edith Raim is also here to add her voice to Manfred Deiler's.
-Whenever I'm asked if I've got the official go-ahead, I don't have an answer.
I have to say, "No, not yet."
When I'm trying to get people on board or when I'm fundraising, that's a problem.
If we were talking about two years on, I could say, "It all just takes time."
But nine years, I don't have an answer anymore.
And of course, I don't want to knock my hometown.
This is my home.
I was born here.
I've been active in promoting remembrance here for 40 years.
But as I said, I don't want to come across as a complainer.
-When the war ended on May the 8th, 1945, the Germans called it the Stunde Null -- the Zero Hour, the moment in which Germany broke with the past and made a fresh beginning.
But for the Jewish survivors liberated from the Kaufering concentration camp, May the 8th did not bring an overnight end to their ordeal.
-I realized very early on that this is a complicated subject.
There were other things happening in Landsberg apart from the history of the concentration camps.
I only really started dealing with the displaced persons camp, the DP camp, a bit later on.
Then I began to delve deeper into that history.
My mother and my father were long dead.
So I asked an old school friend of my mother's.
"Listen, can you tell me something?
In the post-war era, were there Jews in Landsberg?"
And she replied, "Jews in Landsberg?
No way."
But I kept at it, saying, "That's not what I've heard."
I kept the questions coming, and eventually, she said, "Come to think of it, you're right.
There were some.
Anything that had anything to do with Jews was banished from memory.
Repressed.
No one wanted to talk about it."
-Right after the end of the war, in 1945, the U.S. Army turned the former Landsberg barracks into a camp for Holocaust survivors who were unable to return home.
Several thousand Jews, men, women, and children, lived in the DP camp, many for years.
♪♪ One of the camp's first commanders was Irving Heymont, a major in the U.S. Army.
He was just 27 years old when he wrote this letter to his wife in September 1945.
♪♪ -I'm so swamped that I hardly know where to turn first.
I have so much still to do, even though it's almost midnight that I'm calling quits to write this letter.
I have so much to tell you that, again, I hardly know where to begin.
I guess at the beginning would be the best.
We have here in Landsberg a camp for displaced people.
The camp population consists of about 5,000 Jews and 1,000 others, all ex-inmates of concentration camps.
The people sleep in rough wooden beds that are often double or triple stacked on top of each other.
In the makeshift sleeping niches of the living quarters, attempts are made to resurrect family life.
As it was explained to me, for every family group, the shared meal is the high point of the day.
♪♪ I was astonished when I learned from Dr. Zabriskie that the health of the people in the camp is quite good.
That almost doesn't seem possible.
When he noticed the incredulous expression on my face, he looked at me rather askance and said, "Bear in mind, we're all survivors.
Only the strongest have survived."
♪♪ -You have a lot of pictures of it.
-I have pictures here, not only for Lansberg.
This is my life here in the United States.
-Maybe we can begin with Landsberg.
-Well, yes, that's what I would like to do.
If you don't mind.
-Yeah, we're ready.
-I don't want to tell you what to do.
-No, you can -- -You want -- No, no.
But this is my memories as I have lived it.
This was my great love, my first great love.
In Landsberg.
She is...
I don't know whether she is alive now or not.
This was a girlfriend, too.
-You remember her name?
-Yes.
This was Raquel and Sasha.
And this here is...
This photo was taken in 1945, right after the liberation in Landsberg.
When I first arrived in Landsberg.
As you can see, these are all survivors.
Most of them are no longer with us, unfortunately.
Blessed be the memory.
-Jakob Bresler spent two years at the Landsberg DP camp, from 1945 to 1947.
-We started to have a normal life, what we call normal.
For us, it was normal.
For everybody else, it was abnormal because it was not -- It was not conventional.
We were disturbed children.
♪♪ -In summer 1945, conditions in the DP camps remain dire.
U.S. president Harry S. Truman entrusted Earl G. Harrison, a prominent lawyer and experienced government official, with inspecting the camps and issuing a report.
♪♪ "My dear Mr. President, pursuant to your letter of June the 22nd, 1945, I have the honor to present to you a partial report upon my recent mission to Europe to inquire into the conditions under which displaced persons, and particularly those who may be stateless or non-repatriable, are at present living, especially in Germany and Austria."
Harrison's conclusion was damning.
"As matters now stand, we appear to be treating the Jews as the Nazis treated them, except that we do not exterminate them.
They are in concentration camps in large numbers under our military guard instead of SS troops.
One is led to wonder whether the German people seeing this are not supposing that we are following or at least condoning Nazi policy."
-That headline made its way, of course, very quickly to Eisenhower and to Truman, and cried out for action.
-Historian Atina Grossmann specializes in the history of Jewish displaced persons.
The Harrison Report, she says, is one of the most remarkable documents of recent history.
-He said... "We have to recognize that the Jews, because of the special nature --" I'm not quoting directly here.
We could pull out the direct quote.
"Because of the very particular nature of the suffering that they have endured, of the treatment, one could almost say the sonderbehandlung, the special treatment that they received at the hands of the Germans, of the Nazis, has already made them a special group with particular needs that need to be addressed separately.
They deserve to be recognized as their own group.
-The Landsberg DP camp became a camp for Jews alone.
And conditions for the people there improved.
Jewish survivors began to marry and have children.
Many children were born in the camp.
During the post-war period, the DP camps were estimated to have the highest birth rate in the world.
But the DPs didn't want to stay there.
They wanted to go to Palestine, the future Israel, or to the United States.
♪♪ To prepare for emigration, they learned a variety of trades.
♪♪ -This is me on a bi-- on a motorcycle.
Not mine.
Because I did not own any.
And these are... -Motorcycle meant freedom, right?
-Yes, but as I said, I didn't -- I didn't own it.
[ Chuckles ] ♪♪ I used to go to the swimming pool in Landsberg every day in the summertime.
And I met people there, but we were separated.
They did not bother with us, and we did not bother with them.
Because the wounds were still very, very raw.
-Basically, the surviving Jews, at least in theory, did not want anything to do with Germans.
They wanted to be amongst themselves.
They, uh...
The Germans were the people of the perpetrator.
The perpetrator people.
And they were living under the protection, sometimes a much resented protection, but nonetheless the protection of allied military government.
The Germans were resentful that, here were this group of people who they had been told no longer existed -- it was, first of all, kind of shocking that there were Jews at all -- when supposedly they had been wiped out and Germany was free of Jews, who seemed to be getting, ironically, again, to repeat that word, special privileges.
-Germans living in Landsberg encountered self-confident survivors who were unwilling to put up with any abuse.
On April the 28th, 1946, tensions spilled over into skirmishes on the streets of Landsberg.
The unrest was branded a Jewish uprising.
Displaced persons from the camp unleashed their anger on residents of the town.
♪♪ Joseph Alexander is 100 years old.
He was in Landsberg when the Jewish DPs rose up against the local Germans.
Joseph is also Jewish and was born in Poland.
He was also deported by the Germans to the Landsberg Kaufering concentration camp.
-If God didn't want me to survive, I wouldn't be here.
One in particular, you know -- I don't know if you heard me speak.
When I saw Dr. Mengele in Auschwitz, and he told me to go to the left.
And then when he moved further down, I ran back to the other side.
Then, if I didn't run back to the other side, I wouldn't be here now talking to you 'cause the people on the left, they were talking in the truck, they said they went straight to the gas chamber.
-In April 1946, Joseph Alexander was living close to the Landsberg DP camp.
-This is one of the pictures from Landsberg, from the riot, I think.
This here.
And show this.
[ Indistinct shouting ] Do you know what the reason for the up-rise was?
There was another camp not far from us.
I think it was Lechfeld, I think.
There was a youth camp for survivors, young survivors.
And one night they said two of them disappeared.
So people thought that maybe they were kidnapped by Germans.
It was such a short time after the liberation.
So the feeling was a very bad feeling against Germany, you know?
That's what it was.
-Some 200 DPs went on a rampage through the town.
U.S. soldiers marched in with rifles and batons and put an end to the unrest.
[ Indistinct shouting ] -When that time it happened, I happened to be in the camp, in the Landsberg DP camp.
But I lived in Offenhausen.
And I had my car parked on the side street there.
And I was trying to get home, so I went from the back of the camp, trying to go to the car, and I got caught with a bunch of them who were rioting in the back at the German homes.
So I got caught with them, and we were captured and took to Landsberg, to the Landsberg prison.
We were 19 of us.
♪♪ -A U.S. military tribunal sentenced Joseph to a custodial sentence of one year.
♪♪ The camp newspapers, like the Landsberger Spiegel, also reported on the unrest.
They became one of the most influential voices of the survivors.
The papers were unsparing in their observations about the Germans after the war.
They also reported on political developments in Palestine and, later, Israel.
But above all, they were a crucial platform for survivors until the closure of the camp in 1950.
With a print run of up to 17,000, they reached audiences far beyond the region.
-[ Speaking German ] -"To our friend Zuzanna Gutman with Miklosz Pereslin, we wish great fortune and a wonderful mazel tov.
Majlech and Emi Rozenwald."
-"Majlech un Emi Rozenwald."
-If you read it out loud, you can understand Yiddish well enough.
-His archive is a trove of information.
Nearly every week, Manfred receives inquiries from all over the world.
-[ Speaking German ] -You might find the birth announcement of someone born in Landsberg to former concentration camp inmates.
For those people, these are documents they never knew existed.
These are newspapers published in Germany, and they don't exist wherever they live now.
But here they might find a notice of their birth or their parents' wedding announcement.
And they also contain search notices, which might lead people to discover that they have relatives in the U.S. or somewhere.
This is one of the most important historical sources on the DP camps, not the broad, big-picture history, but the history written with a fine brush, the details.
-Manfred Deiler's office is in his basement.
The foundation receives public funding to maintain the former concentration camp buildings, but the work he does is voluntary, his research and his contacts with people who experienced the events firsthand.
-[ Speaking German ] -Even today, there are still a great many people, in politics, too, who think we need to control the narratives.
And that means steering the story in a way that makes it more palatable to the broader population.
That's been the case throughout the entire post-war period, and even now to some extent.
The Nazis are always the others, someone else.
You, your family, your hometown -- they're all victims in their own right.
That's how people prefer to tell that history.
And if we were to open an exhibition now, it would quickly be clear we can't all be victims.
That's just wishful thinking.
We also belong to -- perhaps I shouldn't say the actual perpetrators, but to those who profited from it.
-On January the 7th, 1951, almost six years after the end of National Socialism and the war, the people of Landsberg gathered for a political rally.
4,000 people flocked to the main square, almost a third of the town's population.
They included a cross-section of society and people of influence, representatives of nearly all the political parties, leaders of the Protestant and Catholic Church.
They had come to call for Christian charity, not for Holocaust survivors, but for war criminals detained in Landsberg.
Their trials were ongoing and they faced the death penalty and the citizens of Landsberg were calling for mercy.
♪♪ They demanded mercy for Otto Ohlendorf.
As an SS Einsatzgruppen commander, his job was the mass murder of Jews, Sinti, and Roma.
He ordered the murder of 90,000 people in Eastern Europe.
♪♪ They asked for mercy for Oswald Pohl, the SS general who, when he decided the mass murder of Jews in death camps like Auschwitz wasn't proceeding swiftly enough, would appoint someone else to take over.
♪♪ -[ Speaking German ] -The really strange thing about it is that the demonstrators who gathered on the main square in Landsberg were siding so firmly with the war criminals.
These weren't innocent people.
They were mass murderers, true mass murderers, not people who'd killed two or three, but tens of thousands.
They had so much blood on their hands.
And the demonstrators were standing up for them, of all people, and discovering their humanitarian side for them.
-Edith Raim was born and raised in Landsberg.
She spent decades researching her Bavarian homeland's involvement in Nazi persecution and terror.
-[ Speaking German ] -This idea that the Third Reich just descended upon us, that no one participated, and that everyone was a victim because they were forced to take part, as they claimed -- Well, there are good reasons why that wasn't the case for Landsberg.
Landsberg had a local Nazi Party chapter as early as 1920.
There wasn't any pressure at that point.
You couldn't say, "I've been forced to join the party by the local Nazi Party leader."
So that speaks for a kind of mentality in the region that allowed the dark spirit of Nazism to take hold there at a relatively early stage.
-A counter-protest emerged on the sidelines of the Landsberg rally, organized by DPs from the region.
♪♪ They were chased away by the crowd, who called, "Juden raus" -- "Jews out."
♪♪ ♪♪ -[ Speaking German ] -I work at the Sparkasse bank.
As colleagues started to realize I was a member of that foundation, including colleagues who I wasn't working with directly -- so they can't have ever heard me really talk about it, but they found out -- I started to notice that certain people started to avoid me.
It was the same thing with older colleagues.
A group of us used to go skiing together on weekends, and suddenly an older colleague, when we approached each other on the street, he'd cross the road.
I didn't really notice it at first, but then you realize, "Wow, that's someone who doesn't want to have anything to do with me anymore."
And I used to be a private customer consultant.
They were customers I'd been advising for years.
And suddenly they were no longer making appointments with me.
They went to other colleagues.
And afterwards, when I started looking into their family background -- before that, I never really gave a second thought to my colleagues' family history or how their family might have been involved in Nazism -- I wasn't ever really interested in that.
But I think that's what they were afraid of.
-Joseph Alexander's entire family was murdered by the Nazis.
He visits the Holocaust Museum in Los Angeles several times a week to talk about his experiences.
-You know who this is?
-It's the former chancellor, Angela Merkel.
-Yes, that's Angela Merkel.
I spoke to her in Dachau when I was there in 2015.
-Did she say something to you?
-Well, I told her, actually -- I said I liked what she's supporting for Israel and should keep on doing, helping Israel.
That's what I told her.
She said she will.
[ Speaking indistinctly ] After a few weeks...
They'll say that about 70% of the kids never heard about the Holocaust.
So that's why I am here -- to tell them the truth, what happened.
And I get letters from them afterwards, from the kids.
Amazing.
[ Camera shutter clicks ] -Back in Landsberg, members of the foundation and their president, Manfred Deiler, are presenting their concept for a memorial site to the public.
-[ Speaking German ] -It's all been a bit much over the last few weeks, and I'm noticing it now.
I've got a scratchy cough that's really bothering me.
It's not COVID.
I've tested for that.
And I'm sleeping badly.
Whenever I've got images in my head to do with all of this, the cough comes.
When I get the images out of my head, it's gone.
-Almost all the town's main decision makers are here at the invitation of Manfred Deiler and his fellow campaigners.
[ Indistinct conversations ] -[ Speaking German ] -This image is from 1944 -- "Camp 11, construction, totally new."
"Camp 7 not yet occupied."
"Clay pipe structures 3, not yet occupied."
"Interior shot, 1944, taken by the OT."
-Silentium.
[ Chuckles ] [ Speaking German ] -Can we take the noise level down a bit, please?
There are two Landsberg mayors here -- Moritz Hartmann and Mr. Brettschneider.
Thanks for coming.
Now, I'm not sure if the former mayor comes before the Bavarian Memorial Foundation.
Let's welcome the former mayor of Landsberg first -- Franz Xaver Roessle -- then the mayor of the municipality of Igling, and then Jascha Marz from the Bavarian Memorial Foundation.
Let me have another look around.
Wait.
I've forgotten something.
We've also got City Council member Mr. Axel Floerke here in yellow.
Thank you for coming.
People I know and people I don't know, but I hope I haven't forgotten anyone.
For the next part, I'd like to hand over the podium to Dr. Raim, who's also responsible for the basic concept of the exhibition.
-[ Speaking German ] -How democratic was the Federal Republic of Germany if it didn't adequately succeed in distancing itself from the Nazi era?
And yet in Germany, it still seems easier to engage with the perpetrators than with the traces left behind by the victims, easier to acquire funds for exhibitions or documentation centers than for concentration camp memorials.
Kaufering VII is a place where people will be reminded of the consequences of tyranny and violence.
Now we're at the point where we should stop focusing on the problems and look for solutions.
Thank you.
[ Applause ] [ Indistinct conversations ] -[ Speaking German ] -I'll make it brief.
I need to get home to bed.
Thanks to all those who are still here.
I need to head out and recharge my batteries.
-Manfred Deiler is fighting for a concentration camp memorial in Landsberg am Lech and for his vision of a meaningful engagement with the past.
-[ Speaking German ] -People put on some sort of event.
To provide a somewhat pointed example, let's say a say a music event, ideally together with young people.
And then a sponsor comes along, some politician.
A musical performance always goes down well.
And during the event, you're commemorating the Holocaust.
Is this how we're pushing back against anti-Semitism nowadays?
As I always say, events like these will surely strike fear into the hearts of anti-Semites and the far right and make them change their ways.
I like to call this a light version culture of remembrance.
Maybe some klezmer music, a concert, a few readings.
People acknowledge the past and say, "Yes, anti-Semitism is bad."
And politicians love to be involved as patrons because it's all very innocuous.
What you end up with is a pleasant event, a trend that's currently gaining the upper hand.
[ Man singing in Yiddish ] -For Jakob Bresler, there's no such thing as a light version culture of remembrance.
He survived the Holocaust.
Singing saved his life.
It earned him bread in the camps.
But his entire family was killed.
He saw his father, Chaim Bressler, for the last time in 1943, in the Lodz ghetto.
-And one day there was a letter on the table for me saying, "I'm going back to prison..." "...because I cannot take away your bread."
And he went back to prison.
I ran the same day to the prison.
I wanted to see him.
And I scolded him.
I says, "Why did you do that, after five years, what you went through, and now that you can be with us?"
He says, "Yes, but I'm gonna starve you, too?
You are starving as it is.
But," he says...
He said to me, "You are young."
"If this is life, I don't want it."
And he -- that was... We said goodbye, and that was it.
So, that gave me strength... to survive and tell the story as well as I possibly can.
♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ [ Man singing in Yiddish ] [ Singing continues ]
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