There's something really magical about fire in general.

It brought people together when we first made fires as a form of safety.

And you can gather as a group and be around it.

And when I light up my my props, I definitely feel like an electricity happen.

I hear the fire rolling with the air as it's moving.

I feel like my whole soul is on fire.

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I work at my family's ranch.

I'm the fifth generation.

My dad didn't have any sons.

They had three girls, so I was the son I spend most of the day working with.

My dad and my family usually running equipment to doing mechanical work.

I mean, sometimes you're, you know, 2:00 in the morning, you're going literally 24/7.

You have to really love it as much as I do love it.

I'm such a creative person that it was also hard.

So growing up with dance, like, I loved it, but it's really kind of a clicky group of people that usually get into it where you're like, really thin.

And I was never naturally skinny.

Like, I'm pretty tough.

When I go work out a ranch and I live out there, so you've got muscle and you don't mind getting dirty, so I never really felt quite.

Like, I didn't fit in with the dance group and even with theater.

I love theater, but I don't have a good singing voice, so I didn't leave a whole lot of room for me as far as acting goes.

I never really figured out how my love of theater and danc would really coordinate with the rest of my life, especially with farming.

I went to Hawaii when I was, I think, 16, 15 for the first time, and that's when I first saw like the Polynesian fire spinners.

And I was like, Wow, this is just so cool, like really feeling like the flames and hearing it kind of move and was just like, I need to do this as an adult.

Like, there's no way my parents would even let me right now, but that is super cool and then just kind of forgot about it until I went to a small burn.

It's like a local burn, kind of like Burning Man was blown away by the fire spinners and they handed me their staff and it was like electricity just rushed through my body.

Like, I could feel it in my heart, just like exploded.

And I was like, What is this?

This is amazing.

I mean, maybe when you see your child for the first time, you kind of feel like that rush of love.

And it was very similar to that.

And I just knew I had to do this.

And I was like, How did you?

How do you how did you get into this?

What do you what do I what I got to do?

It was like, Oh, you just bought the prop online and just started playing with it was like, perfect done.

And so I went home and immediately bought a staff and just could not stop playing with it.

I mean, like hours.

I remember the very first time I spun fire, I practiced for a month.

I think it's like 14 degrees outside, but I really wanted to do it hand like gloves on three layers.

Yes.

So good.

I would work on the ranch and I would bartend, and then I come home and I would practice my staff.

I had realized that I was flexible before, but I wasn't anymore to be able to pull off certain moves, I needed to be more flexible.

It's not just like a physical thing, but it's a 100% mental thing too, to be able to break down and move to the point where you can do it on fire safely and not be afraid of getting hurt.

Or if you kind of mess up when you're doing that move to know how to get out of it, if you're playing with fire, you're going to get burned.

There's definitely times where I've learned fire safety that I was like, What am I doing?

Why am I doing this?

I just love it so much that they have to keep going.

I mean, I've never felt like something really call to me as much as fire spinning dead.

It just felt right.

Like it just really.

Yeah, this is what you have to do.

Like the world was offering it to me.

Like, Here you go.

You asked for it.

And here it is.

My parents were like, Oh, you're like, really talented.

But that's not going to make you any money like you need to get a real job.

It's basically the same story I hear on my life is that art is really neat.

You're really great at it, but you're not going to be financially well off because of it.

The love of the ranch to kind of like pulls at your heartstrings.

You're like, Well, I want to leave, but I can't, because I love this place that my family needs help.

Sometimes they get like those see the doubts.

But I mean, at the same time, it's kind of a bit of fuel thin like, OK, let me prove you wrong.

You just have to drive towards it and they'll stop you But otherwise.

My parents, when I first heard fire spinning thought I was crazy, you know, like this isn't going to last long.

She's just going through a weird phase.

That's definitely changed now.

I think they've like my mom.

I was terrified of me spinning fire, but now she kind of helps me get gigs or can tells people about what I'm doing.

Like with my dad now, if I'm like, Hey, I got a gig this weekend, he's like, "OK" and lets it go, which is great .

Ha ha ha ha ha.

I always wanted to be on screen and entertain people.

And if I can do that going around the world and spinning fire and bring some joy like what I experienced when I was like 16, I'd be supe happy to do that.